In this episode: We catch up with Calvin Wong who definitely didn’t foresee ‘invisible virus wartime zoom expert’ in the job description of President. Things have changed drastically since we last had a chat in episode 2 and Elaine finds out just how our president is coping during a pandemic. Spoiler: his haircut has seen better days, but otherwise he’s doing great! We also discuss a very serious topic, one which stems from a personal place. Tensions are at an all time high and unfortunately we’ve noticed a rise in racial attacks against Asians. We share our experiences as Australian Born Chinese (ABC) ourselves, what our childhoods were like and how we felt coming into BDS. Disclaimer: We are not experts, we are simply just in the unique, in-between position of two cultures that gives us a unique perspective. We also like to have a bit of fun, last week it was wizards and wands, this week it’s cutlery and chopsticks! Tune in near the end for that debate. Thanks always to Wright Evans Partners for sponsoring this episode.